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Doing something I wouldn’t normally do on Kayotic Kitchen, but I’m using this space to give a shout to all my fellow foodies out there.
It’s websites like Eva.vn that anger me. Websites that think it necessary to not just blatantly steal many of my and other people’s recipes and photos, but to also go to great lengths to remove the watermark before publishing them to their site. Parasitic websites that live off of other people’s work.
If you’re a food blogger, you might want to check out if they are running some of your recipes as well. The website is written in Vietnamese, but browsers like Google Chrome will translate the pages for you.
Imitation might be the sincerest form of flattery, but I don’t feel very flattered when my work is downright stolen, cropped and passed off as someone else’s.
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Vreselijk, kan er niet tegen hoe mensen over de rug van iemand anders gewoon verdienen. Kwam laatst ook al zoiets in beautyland tegen, gewoon belachelijk.
Trouwens net als tip gelezen dat je heel goed het nieuwe google image search (door dus een van je eigen foto’s naar de zoekbalk te slepen) je foto’s terug kan vinden online. Ook handig om te zien of er nog meer van die luie crimineeltjes zijn ;)
Un-be-lie-va-ble! Shame on them!
totally agree- its obvious you put a whole amount of effort into your recipes (never seen so much detail and it definitely helps a novice like me!) and to have someone just rip it off and stick it some place else is not on.
hope their site gets taken down or something!
It makes me furious too. They don’t seem to have discovered me, but I see some photos I recognize and will alert the bloggers.
I hope you’re using a <no follow> link so they don’t get any benefit from you linking to them!
Heard they spotted photos fromRasa Malaysia as well, and I gather an awful lot of other food bloggers.
that’s not really the meaning of “shout out”. generally people use that phrase to mean a thank you or to express gratitude.
Just read it, it’s more to acknowledge someone, but I didn’t mean it as slang :)
How sad is this?? I can’t believe they would not just give the blogger the credit. I don’t think anything less of a blogger when they say “Hey I found this great recipe at ….. thought I would share” How sad a person they must be that they have to steal others idea’s and not give them credit. I’m sorry this happened to you. Gotta make you wonder.
I have seen my photos on travel blogs or travel sites, emailed them, they said well we tried to send you a release but you never replied. Probably because your email went to spam I told them. Just give me credit that’s all I ask and a nice THANKS would be OK also. How did you discover this K? What is a no follow link?
I think this link explains it best: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow
I was contacted by one of my Vietnamese readers who found the blog and was kind enough to pass it on to me.
How heinous, shameless and despicable. Surely you can have no pride in “your” blog or “your” work if it isn’t really yours to begin with? If they can go to the sad extreme of removing the watermark then they could damn well make they’re own food.
I don’t think anything less of a blogger when they have used and credited another person for the recipe. In fact, I’ve used and credited Kay several times – I enjoy your site, its beautiful and exciting so I WANT others to visit it as well! There would be no joy in simply copying and pasting someone elses work and no respect fopr not giving credit where it is due.
I’m sadly sure this happens quite frequently and, whilst I have never been a victim of it (I don’t think my photos are anywhere up to scratch to be stolen!) I imagine its just such a horrible invasion and trivialised theft of someone else’s hard work.
I hope if there is a way to force them to acknowledge their actions. Sadly, we all know that the internet can be this vast, lawless zone. I, for one, am glad to know the original
That’s the thing: had they asked me, I would have gladly told them to go ahead and use one or two photos. But I think they grabbed about 100 photos and cropped them to remove the watermark.
This happens a lot, an awful lot. But I’ve never seen it this extreme, must admit that.
From what I see they copied the whole dang page of yours. Well that truly sucks !
Not just that one. They copied about a dozen full pages from what I see. They cropped the intro and end shot to remove my watermark.
That is so awful! Does anyone know if Deb at Smitten Kitchen has an email available? I recognized a picture for her watermelon lemonade (probably because I’ve been itching to make it!)
Kay, I hope they agree to either give you credit or remove your photos.
It sure looks like they take a tour of all our food blogs and borrowed some photos here and there.
Deb has a contact form in her website that you can access via a link at the bottom of her site.
Nevermind…found an email.
Thats terrible Kay…Have u contacted them ? You should…they should give you the credit for the recipe and the photos…really shameful !
I have emailed them, but they didn’t respond. Doesn’t surprise me at all.
Going to contact their provider.
I feel your pain, I’m not nearly as good as you but I had some of my stuff stolen (which is why I started watermarking). Another blogger actually contacted me, we reported them to WordPress, who handled it from there.
I felt raped and really, really angry! Most bloggers are happy to share as long as credit is given where credit is due. I’m glad you put it out there for everyone to see.
What surprised me most is the way they use the intro photo. They just cut around my watermark. It’s things like this that make me put a watermark in the center of my photos, but apparently that’s not enough.
See the original posting here: http://www.kayotic.nl/blog/bombay-breakfast-potatoes
I am so sorry to hear this happened to you, Kay! More people than we realize just have no scruples whatsoever; it is sad. I remember when I first found you, and emailed for permission to download your photos to attach them to your recipes for my own use! (that was before you had pictures in the print options, of course!) Sheesh, and I thought I was being bold.
It’s getting worse and worse. This is bizarre.
http://www.eva.vn/bep-eva/hoa-qua-uop-socola-c162a71104.html
Even your latest recipe is on there! Terrible!! I really hope you can do something about it. I love your work Kay.
OHmigosh! Have you talked to a lawyer?
Is there nothing you can do about it? Because, if you can’t something has to change.
They’re in Vietnam, so I have no idea what we can do about it. Had it been Europe or America it would be different.
I contacted all the food bloggers I recognized photos of (they even displayed the photo of a fellow food blogger’s son) and I contacted the abuse department of their hosting company.
I’m sorry you have to go through this. I worry about the same thing with my recipes, photos especially! I don’t usually post recipes, and when I do I don’t give away all my secrets. I’ve only once used someone’s photo and I gave her full credit, including mentioning her blog. It’s making me think twice about putting too much of what I love on my blog. I guess it’s not enough these days to say photos and recipes are copyright protected. What else can one do to proctect oneself??? I hope you’re able to find resolution.
I just spent some time googling the recipes they have up there and as it turns out all of it is stolen. I contacted the food bloggers and pointed the photos out to them. They even stooped to using a photo of food blogger’s child.
This is of the reasons I’m a food blogger and seldom to never post private things and only an occasional photo of my son. The internet can be a strange place.
That’s horrible and sad..
Not sure if it will stop them, but it could slow them down a little….. On my old website, I used a java script in EVERYTHING (photos, text…) that would not allow right click copying. MANY professional photographers here in the states use something similar. The only way to get the content is to print screen it; cut, copy and edit photos; and then piece it all back together.
That kid of blatant thievery makes me so angry! I had my professional content stolen in the same way yours is. Luckily a computer tech friend gave me the heads up about the script.
@Christy
More people do that, but it’s useless. It takes two mouse clicks to switch off Javascript in any browser. Besides, anyone with a bit of knowledge of html and websites, can still copy the text and the links to the pictures directly from the page source. Unless one takes more drastic measures.
We had a very popular food blog in the Netherlands for four years. We found our recipes and photos all over the world. Up to and including rtl.nl and ah.nl!
We always set our lawyer loose on them, who made them remove it, but it’s a lost battle, in the end.
We quit after four years, because of all the hassle it caused.
People just think they can use whatever they want. because it’s on the internet. Law says different, but nobody understands. I mean, if someone nicks your garden gnomes from the garden, everybody agrees it’s theft…
I used that script, too, years ago. Probably even closed to a decade ago, when food blogging didn’t even existed. Like you said: nowadays it only takes a ‘save this page’ to steal recipe + photos. These people are shameless, though, they do a hackjob at trying to take out your logo.
I’m pretty lucky that I have a fairly large readership and the use of my photos, or even just my recipes, is noticed in mere hours and will immediately come back to me one way or another. Mostly via email and or twitter. The food blogging world is fairly big, but still it’s a small circle, if takes makes sense. Once you pull a stunt like that, steal people’s work or not give credit ans pass of other’s work as your own, your name is tarnished. Rightfully so.
I take solace in the fact that a lot of people know that they stole it from me, and can’t imagine someone taking pride in publishing something that isn’t theirs and trying to pass it off as though it were, but in the end there really isn’t much you can do about it.
There’s a reason I was an exercise science major, computer technology isn’t my area of expertise. ;)
Sorry they did this to you. I enjoy you site so much. Keep up the good “original” work. :)